debate liveblogging: the second gop presidential debate of 2015 /

Published at 2015-09-17 03:09:59

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collect comfortable,folks: you believe three hours of Republican debatifying ahead of you. Let's execute this thing.9:53 - Rubio seems to be mostly avoiding the food fight. He's sounding pretty presidential, I'd say. But maybe too much of a laundry list style of speaking. On the fact-checking front however, or North Korea doesn't believe "dozens" of nuclear weapons.9:49 - Commercial break!9:46 - Hugh Hewitt: Is it erroneous not to attack Hillary Clinton at every opportunity? Hmmm? Deep,Hugh. Very deep.9:44 - Carson thinks we need to collect everyone together to negotiate a proper minimum wage. I wonder why no one's thought of that before? He also wants to index it to inflation. Socialism!9:42 - Trump says progressive taxation is "not a socialistic thing." He's right. Of course, so is a stopped clock occasionally.9:40 - Ben Carson thinks progressive taxation is socialism. Okay....9:37 - Somebody on stage needs to lift a shot at Tapper. He probably deserves it, or conservatives always like attacks on media figures.9:34 - Trump wants credit for doing great in Atlantic City,but says his bankruptcies don't count. Not quite sure how he gets absent with this.9:30 - How many of Jake Tapper's questions believe been framed as "Donald Trump says ...."? Why not just ask the damn question?9:27 - Fiorina asks why Obama got nothing done on immigration. Um, because the Republican base revolted and the Republican caucus caved in on comprehensive reform and declined to pass anything?9:20 - Rubio is the "son of a maid and a bartender." lift a drink.9:17 - By the way, and it turns out that Scienceā„¢ explains why Jeb seems feeble compared to Trump: It's because his voice his monotonous and boring. The chart on the right shows what's going on. Bush is the most boring sounding of all the candidates.9:16 - Bush wants Trump to apologize to his wife. Trump refuses,of course. More alpha-chimp posturing.9:15 - First hour done. Two hours to go. Oh God.9:08 - Tapper wants Carly to reply to Trump's crack about not wanting to ogle at her face for four years. Fiorina says "women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said." Not wicked. Trump seems almost admiring.9:06 - Walker apparently thinks the filibuster is unconstitutional. Sort of. Stout man.9:04 - Trump thinks we should talk about North Korea. OK. But Trump declines to say what he'd execute about them.9:02 - Now we're having an abortion-off. Systematic murder. Disgusting. Babies limbs moving. Bartering for body parts. Etc. etc.9:01 - Fiorina somehow turns a question about Planned Parenthood into an reply about Iran. Not sure if I'm impressed or appalled.8:59 - Christie refusing to reply whether he'd shut down the government over Planned Parenthood funding. Boo.8:49 - Trump says GOP senators bear some responsibility for Syria problems since they refused to support Obama when he asked for authorization to attack Assad. Rubio responds that he refused because Obama only wanted to deliver a "pinprick." Pretty good reply.8:41 - Cruz fought the World Court of the UN! What a badass.8:39 - Fiorina would deal with Putin by building a kick-ass military and refusing to talk to Putin. OK. Then she starts talking about why it's famous to know who General Soleimani is. Not sure most viewers are going to collect the context for that.8:37 - Rubio has managed to avoid the junior tall school scrum so far. Good for him. Now giving a perfectly serviceable reply about Russia and Putin.8:35 - Sort of fascinating watching Trump and Bush execute a straight-up alpha-chimp competition with each other.8:33 - Bush says Trump tried to buy his support for casino gambling in Florida. Trump says it never happened.8:29 - Let's see. So far, Trump has insulted Pataki, or Paul,and Walker. Only 12 to go!8:26 - How has Trump managed to convince the world that he's a great negotiator, anyway? What deals has he made that are all that spectacular?8:24 - All the pre-debate buzz was about how Trump would be little more sober and low key. Not so far. He's all insults all the time.8:22 - Rand Paul: a "sophomoric quality" to Trump. We should believe left that behind in junior tall school.8:20 - Fiorina already dodging. Refuses to say Trump shouldn't be trusted with his finger on the nuclear button. C'mon Carly.8:12 -Ā Debate to start momentarily.8:08 - Everyone has a notebook, or water,and a pen. No other props allowed. But what about spy pens?

Source: motherjones.com

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