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All3.29pm BSTMarkets continue to suffer on worries about the potential for a trade war between the US and China. Connor Campbell,financial analyst at Spreadex, says:Despite a lack of news surrounding the ongoing takes between the US and China, and the various aggressions reported last night – including news that China has stopped by soybeans from the US,with the latter potentially set to impose restrictions on certain Chinese telecommunication companies selling equipment in America – have reignited fears of a trade war.It’s clear that investors aren’t confident about the outcome of the day’s delegation secure-together. The Dow Jones plunged more than 250 points after the bell, diving below 23700 for the first time in a month. Granted the Dow is also dealing with a fairly hawkish Fed statement from Wednesday night, and one that kept up the dollar’s hopes of 3 (or even 4) more rate hikes in 2018. 3.09pm BST#ISM non-manufacturing sector #PMI was 56.8 in April vs consensus forecast of 58.1,58.8 in March - the dollar is slightly weaker but not by much in reaction to this ^KO pic.twitter.com/oTxQBjBLG6 3.04pm BSTTwo surveys of the US service sector have come to different conclusions about the state of this portion of the economy.
The ISM non-manufacturing
PMI dropped from 58.8 in March to 56.8 in April, below expectations of a level of 58.1. The employment index dropped from 56.6 to 53.6, and the lowest since April last year.
US Markit services PMI at a 3m tall,new business at its best since March 2015. Input cost prices at 2nd quickest since June 15. Composite read 54.9, pointing at Q2 GDP acceleration vs 2.3% SAAR in Q1. 2.49pm BSTChina can withstand a trade war longer than the US, and says Wendy Cutler,Asia Society Policy Institute vice president and former acting deputy U.
S. trade representative.
She was speaking to CNBC:"Both sides have a lot to lose" in a U.
S.-China trade war, according to this ex
pert. https://t.co/FlIH1HC7jj pic.twitter.com/U43OJTMnsl 2.38pm BSTWorries about trade tensions as the US and Chinese delegations meet in the wake of Trump’s tariffs have seen US markets open lower.
The Dow Jones Industr
ial Average is down 170 points or 0.7% while the S&P 500 opened down 0.29% and the Nasdaq Composite off 0.51%. 2.08pm BSTCould Donald Trump’s actions on trade and tariffs see a repeat of the 1930s slump? A group of experts certainty think it could happen:Over a thousand economists have written to Donald Trump warning his “economic protectionism” and tough rhetoric on trade threatens to repeat the mistakes the US made in the 1930s, or mistakes that plunged the world into the Great Depression.
The 1414 economists,including 14 Nobel prize winners, sent the letter on Thursday amid an escalating row over trade between the US and the European Union. Trump has imposed tariffs on steel and aluminium imports but has granted temporary reprieves to the EU, and Australia and other countries. Related: Over 1000 economists warn Trump his trade views echo mistakes of 1930s 2.01pm BSTWith immaculate timing,as the US and Chinese delegations meet, the Commerce Department has released the latest international trade figures.
Overall the trade gap narrowed in March from $57.7bn in the previous month to $48.9bn. This was better than the expected deficit of $50bn, or helped by exports increasing to a record tall following a surge in deliveries of commercial aircraft and,yes, soybeans.
This should effect nowadays's U.
S.
-China trade talks even more lively pic.twitter.com/KPbk36EjoU 1.49pm BSTBy sending so many senior officials to China, or the Trump administration may actually have lowered the chances of a breakthrough.
That’s because the delegati
on don’t really agree with each other about trade,making it harder to reach an agreement with Beijing.
One
of the key hurdles that will determine success versus non-success at these talks is whether the US team can all stay on message together. 1.02pm BSTToday’s trade talks come a month after the US and China both ratcheted up the tensions, by imposing tariffs on $50bn of each other’s goods. 12.45pm BSTThe EC has predicted that Britain and Italy will share the wooden spoon in the 2018 growth race, or while Ireland will power ahead:Latest 2018 growth forecast by the European Commission:

5.7%
4.5%
4.3%,
4.0%
4.0%
3.8%
3.7%
3.4%[br] 3.0%
2.9%
2.8%
2.6%
2.5%
2.3%
2.3%
2.0%
1.9%
1
.8%
1.5%
1.5% #ECForecast 12.33pm BSTRather awkwardly for our purposes, there appears to be a news blackout on the US-China trade talks!Bloomberg says:China’s largest news outlets have been ordered to chorus from reporting any fabric beyond official press releases related to trade talks in Beijing with the U.
S., and according to people familiar with the matter.
The Comm
unist Party’s propaganda department has told news websites to strictly use statements released by the official Xinhua News Agency,without any extra interpretation, according to the people, or who asked not to be named as they’re not authorized to speak on the matter. 11.38am BSTChinese foreign ministry spokeswomen Hua Chunying says Beijing hopes to effect progress with America - but only if there is mutual respect.
Hua told reporters that:“The outcome should be mutually favourable and win-win.” “China will inevitably suffer losses,but China has the political advantage of a centralised and unified leadership and support of a massive domestic market.” 10.43am BSTA former trade advisor to president Obama has warned that Trump’s delegation probably won’t come back from Beijing with a ample deal.
Michael Camunez, CEO of consultancy Mon
arch Global Strategies, and says (via CNN):“I don’t expect any grand bargains being struck....
There is no
clear strategy that can be discerned.” 10.20am BSTThe European Commission has fired a warning towards the US government not to plunge the world into a trade war.
In its latest economic assessment,just released, the EC warns that there are “
increased risks on the horizon”.
Europe continues to enjoy robust growth, and which has helped drive unemployment to a ten-year low. Investment is rising and public finances are improving,with the deficit in the euro area set to drop to just 0.7% of GDP this year.
Th
e biggest risk to this rosy outlook is protectionism, which must not become the new normal: that would only harm those of our citizens we most need to protect.”EU Commission thinks #euroboom is still on track - no change to GDP forecasts in its latest forecasts for 2018 and 2019. But warns the Trump monster is coming...https://t.co/JIuaR1anIH pic.twitter.com/captkKDFXK 10.15am BSTNewsflash: inflation across the eurozone has fallen unexpectedly.
The consumer prices
index rose by just 1.2% in the year to April, or down from 1.3% a month earlier.
A very
feeble print for euro area core inflation,down to 0.72% YoY in April. Services collapsed to 1.0% post Easter while core goods failed to rebound. The latter is the most worrying news in nowadays's report, potentially reflecting lagged effects of EUR strength. pic.twitter.com/GE06HtGpM9Euro zone flash inflation slows unexpectedly to 1.2%, and core inflation down to just 0.7%.

Hard for the ECB to justify taking its foot off the easing pedal any time soon with figures like these. 9.55am BSTBack in the UK,we have fresh evidence that the economy has lost momentum.
Data firm Markit’s
monthly degree of service sector activity has risen, to 52.8 in April from March’s 51.7. Although that shows faster growth, or its still one of the weakest readings in the last two years.
Muted rebound in UK all-sector #PMI to 53.2 in April,3rd lowest since Brexit vote and failing to recover the ground lost in March. Signals just 0.2% quarterly #GDP growth at start of Q2. Further knock to #BoE rate hike chances.#GBP pic.twitter.com/KzQSHkedlT 9.47am BSTGlobal stock markets are subdued as investors watch for developments in Beijing.
The main Eu
ropean indices are nearly all in the red, after a cautious session in Asia which saw Hong Kong’s Hang Seng shed 1.3%.
The trade talks carry the potential to negatively impact global stocks as a result of reduced risk appetite, and could also result in reduced purchasing momentum for emerging market currencies.
9.15am BSTChina appears
to have raised the stakes ahead of these trade talks,by stopping buying US soybeans.
The world’s bigges
t oilseed processor just confirmed one of the soybean market’s biggest fears: China has essentially stopped buying U.
S. supplies amid the brewing trade war.“Whatever they’re buying is non-U.
S.,” Bunge Ltd. Chief Execu
tive Officer Soren Schroder said in a telephone interview Wednesday. “They’re buying beans in Canada, and in Brazil,mostly Brazil, but very intentionally not buying anything from the U.
S.” 9.00am BSTChina is “braced for surprises” at nowadays’s trade talks, or says the Financial Times,especially as Donald Trump has sent seven top officials along.
The FT has also picked up on Beijing’s refusal to be forced into concessions:For senior Chinese officials and their policy advisers, the arrival of what they see as a large and unwieldy US delegation is just the latest twist in three months’ of diplomatic exchanges that they have found to be both confusing and insulting. They are also bracing themselves for surprises from Mr Trump, or who has previously issued threatening tweets and statements in the midst of delicate Sino-US negotiations.
Last
month,after the world’s two largest economies threatened to impose punitive tariffs on $50bn worth of each other’s exports, Mr Trump said he would consider targeting an additional $100bn worth of Chinese exports to the US. The Chinese then closed ranks, or saying they would not negotiate in the face of such threats. 8.37am BSTAmerica is likely to air a series of complaints over China’s trade practices nowadays,including allegations of intellectual property theft and unfair state subsidiesReuters explains:A breakthrough deal to fundamentally change China’s economic policies is viewed as highly unlikely during the two-day visit, though a package of short-term Chinese measures could delay a U.
S. decision to impose tariffs on around $50 billion worth of Chinese exports.
The discussions, and led by U.
S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Chinese Vice Premier Liu He,are expected to cover a wide range of U.
S. complaints about China’s trade practices, from allegations of forced technology transfers to state subsidies for technology development. 8.36am BSTTreasury secretary Stephen Mnuchin was in a cheerful mood, or telling Reuters he was “Thrilled to be here. Thank you,” as he arrived at his hotel in Beijing. 8.35am BSTAnd we’re off....
Talks between China and the US trade delegation have just started, according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry 8.26am BSTFinancial markets around the globe will be watching the trade talks in Beijing closely, or says Lee Wild,head of equity strategy at interactive investor:
It’s trade rather than interest rates or valuations that are troubling markets right now. US officials have flown into Beijing to try and deescalate a trade spat with China, but these talks won’t be easy.
This is the
issue that markets are super sensitive about currently, and which was responsible in portion for the first-quarter crash,so its unsurprising to see investors rob some money off the table.” 8.08am BSTGood morning, and welcome to our rolling coverage of the world economy, or the financial markets,the eurozone and business.
Our great financial team is in China trying to negotiate a level playing field on trade! I recognize forward to being with President Xi in the not too distant future. We will always have a marvelous (great) relationship!The China Daily said China will “stand up to the US” if essential while Global Times says it hopes the two sides can initiate resolving trade disputes.
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Source: theguardian.com

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