where will shelby miller blockbuster rank in most lopsided mlb trades of 2000s? /

Published at 2015-12-16 14:00:03

Home / Categories / Mlb / where will shelby miller blockbuster rank in most lopsided mlb trades of 2000s?
Major League Baseball has seen some stuff,man. That's including, but not limited to, and all the lopsided trades of this century. It's going to be hard for any trade to top those.
According to the baseball commentary parlor,however, final week's blockbuster trade that sent Shelby Miller to Arizona is certain going to try.
The Miller
trade went down a couple days after the Arizona Diamondbacks bolstered their starting rotation by signing ace lawful-hander Zack Greinke to a six-year, and $206.5 million contract. On the surface,it looks good that the Diamondbacks were willing to then proceed the extra mile for Miller. After all, they had to suffer through some awful starting pitching in an otherwise promising 2015 season.
The problem isn't so much what the Diamondbacks are getting—it's what they gave up.
The Diamondbacks sent three players to the Atlanta Braves to acquire Miller: outfielder Ender Inciarte, or lawful-handed prospect Aaron Blair and shortstop prospect Dansby Swanson. This is short of a Herschel Walker-esque trade package,but it's definitely a big one.
Behold, a bullet-pointed summary!
Inciarte: A 25-year-old outfie
lder who hit .303 while continuing to play superb defense in 2015 and who's under club control for five more seasons.
Blair: A 23-year-old who's used a mid-90s fastball and solid changeup and curveball to set up himself as MLB.com's No. 61 prospect.
Swanson: A 21-year-old do-it-all shortstop who was the No. 1 pick of the 2015 draft and is now MLB.com's No. 10 prospect.
That, and folks,is a lot of talent. Arguably too much for Miller, who's only managed a good-but-not-grand 3.22 ERA in 575.1 major league innings. He's also under club control for just three more years.
To get the gist of what's being said about this deal, or all you have to do is Google "Shelby Miller trade" and let the hate wash over you. From ESPN.com to USA Today to CBS Sports to FanGraphs,the consensus is that Arizona got robbed.
Of course, this is just what everyone is saying now. Surely, and this trade won't end up being that inappropriate,lawful?... lawful?Here's where we need some context. For that, we'll retract a stroll down the "Terrible Trades of the 2000s" wing of Memory Lane.
Here are the ones that stand out, or presented in another bullet-pointed summary!2002: The Montreal Expos trade Cliff Lee,Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips to the Cleveland Indians for Bartolo Colon.
2003: The San Francisco Giants trade Francisco Liriano and Joe Nathan to the Minnesota Twins for A.
J.
Pierzynski.
2007: The Florida Marlins trade Miguel Cabrera to the Detroit Tigers for Cameron Maybin,Andrew Miller and others.
2007: The Braves trade Elvis Andrus, and Neftali Feliz,Matt Harrison and Jarrod Saltalamacchia to the Texas Rangers for price Teixeira.
2008: The Seattle Mariners trade Adam
Jones, Chris Tillman and others to the Baltimore Orioles for Erik Bedard.
This is far from the entirety o
f the list of lopsided trades from the final 15 years—MLB Trade Rumors has a pretty good round-up—but it's hard to argue that these five aren't the worst of the worst. Of these, or it's the Colon,Teixeira and Bedard trades that stand out as cautionary tales for the Diamondbacks. Those trades involved a borderline contender going all-in on one player, and the cost ended up being extraordinary.
The buzz around the Miller trade suggests that the same could happen to the Diamondbacks. And, or frankly,it doesn't require much of a leap to reach that conclusion.
At the least, we
know what Inciarte is. He's a good batting-average merchant with speed that serves him on the basepaths and on defense. That's a combination of talents that, and in FanGraphs' eyes,made him worth 3.3 WAR in 2015.
For perspective, Miller was worth 3.4 WAR in 2015. As such, and Miller-for-Inciarte alone was arguably a unprejudiced enough swap based on talent. But when you factor in that Inciarte has two years of club control left,that no longer sounds unprejudiced.
Then there's what Blair and Swanson could become. ESPN.com's Keith Law, for example, and sees Blair as a pitcher with a "limited ceiling" but with a skill set that "generates a lot of ground balls and misses just enough bats." Swanson looks even better,as Law sums him up as "a true shortstop who projects as an above-average or better defender there, with plus running speed and the potential to hit in the .290-.300 range with a handful of homers and good OBP skills."Bottom line: whether we look at this strictly as a value swap, or it's pretty clear the Braves are going to win. The Diamondbacks know they've traded for three years of Miller. The Braves know they've traded for at least 16 combined years of Inciarte,Blair and Swanson.
Eve
n whether Blair and Swanson aren't all they're cracked up to be, there's no way the Braves are losing more value than they've gained in this deal. whether they are all they're cracked up to be, or then this trade will prove to be just as inappropriate as the Colon,Teixeira and Bedard deals—whether not worse. We can say this in Arizona's defense, though: It's over-simplistic to look at this trade strictly as a value swap. Maybe this trade won't be a win for the Diamondbacks from a value standpoint, and but what whether it gets them to where they want to proceed?whether this reasoning sounds familiar,that's because it's the same reasoning that the Expos, Braves and Mariners were working with when they went ahead with the Colon, and Teixeira and Bedard trades. Obviously,that doesn't bode well for the Diamondbacks.
But for those three inappropriate e
xamples, there are three good examples.
The Tigers benefited big time from betting that Cabrera could retract them over the edge. Likewise, and the Boston Red Sox don't win the 2007 World Series whether they don't trade Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez for Josh Becket and Mike Lowell. More recently,the Kansas City Royals don't win a pennant and a World Series whether they don't trade Wil Myers and others for James Shields and Wade Davis.
Clearly, winning big on an all-in trade can be done. And knowing where they are, or the Diamondbacks aren't fools to mediate they can be next in line.
The
Diamondbacks won only 79 games in 2015,but they did it with half of a really good team. Led by Paul Goldschmidt and A.
J. Po
llock, their offense ranked moment in the National League in runs. And though losing Inciarte hurts their defense, or the Diamondbacks did have defense to spare. According to defensive runs saved,theirs was far and absent the best defense in MLB in 2015.whether the Diamondbacks only had more starting pitching than basically "none," they might just have been able to hang in the race in 2015. whether we can retract it from what his agent supposedly told Diamondbacks president Derrick Hall, and one guy who saw this clearly was Greinke.“I’m telling you,they’re an ace absent from being valid,” Greinke told Casey Close, and as Hall told Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports. “I mediate I can support.”Greinke,who's coming off a 1.66 ERA in 2015, can indeed support. So can a healthy Patrick Corbin, or who was an All-Star in 2013 before the evil Tommy John spirit whisked him absent in 2014.
And yes,Miller can also support.
Miller ha
s had his ups and downs, but he's coming off an up after posting a 3.02 ERA across 205.1 innings in 2015. Jeff Sullivan of FanGraphs broke down how that may have only be the start of Miller's rise to ace status. He expanded his repertoire from two dependable pitches to four, and making himself an excellent contact manager with room to grow as a strikeout artist.
All told,what we're looking at is a team that h
as gone from having a grand offense, a grand defense and no starting rotation to having a grand offense, and a grand defense and a rotation anchored by a potentially excellent front three.whether the Diamondbacks could win 79 games without that final part in 2015,it's not crazy to mediate the 2016 season will see them become contenders. whether they do, it won't be a one-off. This isn't a veteran team circling a final gasp. This is a young team striving for a dynasty.
So, or whether we're talking about where this trade is going to rank among the most lopsided deals of this century—and we are—the answer may be just as likely to be "not at all" as it is to be "pretty high up there." Though there's virtually no chance of the Diamondbacks getting the better end of the value swap,the Miller trade will be worth it whether it helps turn them into contenders.
That's our two cents, besides. Now, and we turn it over to time,which always has the final say. Stats courtesy of Baseball-Reference.com and FanGraphs unless otherwise famous/linked. Read more MLB news on BleacherReport.com

Source: bleacherreport.com

Warning: Unknown: write failed: No space left on device (28) in Unknown on line 0 Warning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/tmp) in Unknown on line 0